Over the last twenty years interacting with recovering addicts and substance abusers in a variety of capacities, Deryl observed that the ones who didn't have any dreams, any "Big Whys" beyond recovery, were far more likely to relapse than those who did.

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So now he speaks, runs workshops, and is the Head Certified Recovery Coach at Minnesota Adult and Teen Challenge. No matter what hat he's wearing, his message is that you need a goal bigger than your own recovery to motivate yourself to stick with it and succeed!